On the 18th of September, 2013, the international curator David Elliott had a public conversation with artist Thomas Eller at Cafe Dix in the Berlinischer Akademie in Berlin, Germany As they discussed Elliott's approaches to curating,  a selection of works of art were projected on the wall behind them. For Elliott, who is both a historian and historian of art, showing is believing. Being contemporary means being part of an ever ambivalent historic process in which one has to choose one's arguments - even if one would prefer to avoid this. He talked about cultural political sensitivities in various regions of the world and how being radical today might be the opposite of what is called "criticality."

The Art Section is very pleased to present an audio recording of this stimulating conversation. To hear it, please click on the player below. (Please be patient--it may take a little while to load.)